Hunter has another one worth reading. (The back story is that Chris Matthews and David Shuster thought there was something politically noteworthy and significant about Obama declining coffee in favor of orange juice at an Indiana diner.)
The problem is that it is difficult to truly get angry over, anymore, because it is too predictable; the joke has been played too many times, and increasingly badly with each telling. I can understand why a presidential candidate doing badly at bowling would be a fun, two-minute diversion from weightier matters. And I can understand why a presidential candidate speaking imprecisely about a difficult political issue would become political news. The orange juice thing, where we’re trying to pin an “elitist” label on someone because they asked for orange juice instead of coffee?
No. That was the point where the wires crossed, and shorted. There is a point in which a triviality becomes less than trivial, less than banal, and becomes, to use the most technical term for it, deeply and abrasively stupid. There is no spin possible that turns “asking for orange juice” into an issue of elitism or snobbery: there is, in an infinite sea of alternate realities, not one in which asking for orange juice demonstrates an important negative aspect of character. It is stupid. It is aggressively stupid; it is soul-burrowingly stupid; it is mind-fuckingly stupid. It is the kind of stupid that seeps into the rug so that the entire building stinks of stupid for the next ten years whenever the air conditioning comes on. It is the kind of stupid that wounds all those who come into contact with it. It is a stupid that has been rendered physical: it leaves a scar.
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T says
I have easily logged more late night or early morning hours than the average commenter, and I’ve never been a coffee drinker. Love to smell it, but don’t like the taste.
Some people prefer the taste of orange juice.
I suppose the Chris Matthews argument would be that if you’re not willing to choose to drink that which you don’t like, you’re an elitist? Is that it?
I would have assumed this would have worked some other way, such as: Starbucks vs. Tropicana–which is more “elite”? I would have never guessed orange juice is what separates the classes these days.
Maybe Campbell Brown can have Grover Norquist and Bill Cunningham on for a wide-ranging discussion of Obama’s disturbing beverage preferences.
Doug says
Only if they pause, from time to time, to gripe about the “liberal media.”
Rev. AJB says
Meanwhile Hillary is doing shots in Crown Point.
Would it have been more favorable if Obama had ordered that oj as a screwdriver or a tequila sunrise?
Buzzcut says
Hmmm. Obama declined coffee?
If he weren’t a smoker, I would chalk up his anti-coffee stance to his being a secret muslim.
Just joking!
PigInZen says
But let’s remember that as Chris Matthews said, the media is John McCain’s base. And yes, I actually saw that show and didn’t just read about it on the internets…
david c roach says
so i suppose that beer, and bratwursts (alcohol, and pork- anathema to closet islamics) is out of the question? perhaps we should call Barack Obama, “Obama X”? I guess he might as well give up on getting the hoosier democratic xenophobic, white, “god, gun, and guts” blue collar redneck vote? not that theres any of them (heaven forbid) here in good old global center of diversity, and enlightenment- Indiana….I wonder what his views are on sodomy between consenting adults? We already know he wants to disarm the black populace from their handguns, ranch rifles, and carry permits.
tim zank says
After watching the clip, I’d say it was more Matthews way of showing us all what a “human” kind of guy The Messiah can be. Sturdy, confident and forthright in front of the masses, yet just a man, sometimes awkward in diners and close quarters. (locate nearest porcelain receptacle, hurl, rinse, repeat)
Chrissy wouldn’t ever be derogatory toward The Chosen One, he still gets that “funny feeling” in his leg when Obama speaks. In his mind, (Matthews) Obama is the only “spoogeworthy” candidate since maybe Abe Lincoln.
T says
Actually, Tim, Matthews all but declared a desire to go down on Dubya when he did the carrier landing. Went on and on about his walk, the bulge in his pants, etc.
I have a feeling he’s going to feel similar funny feelings for McCain, if he doesn’t already.
He was kind of hot for Fred Thompson, too. Talked about how he imagined he smelled of musk, how manly he was, etc.
Rev. AJB says
Meanwhile Hillary smells of cheap booze and beer…at least that is what our local paper would have you believe considering they had to run that photo of her again today.
Buzzcut says
I have a feeling he’s going to feel similar funny feelings for McCain, if he doesn’t already.
If?
Mathews is the premier McCain lover out there. Remeber the ’00 primaries? Man-crush?
Buzzcut says
Meanwhile Hillary smells of cheap booze and beer…at least that is what our local paper would have you believe considering they had to run that photo of her again today.
Here.
That side view of her sippin’ her chardonney really shows the face lift she’s had. It’s a wonder that she can close her eyes!
I’m 36, and I have more wrinkles than she does. That’s not natural.
Rev. AJB says
Buzzcut-That was stright-up bourbon she was drinking; not chardonnay.
Chardonnay is something an elisits like Obama would drink at a blue-collar bar.
Buzzcut says
It was Crown Royal. Doug can tell us if that is a bourbon or not.
My point is that she was drinking it like a chardonnay.
BTW, the caption for that photo is BS. I saw the video, and she didn’t “toss back” anything. She sipped it like a chardonnay.
I guess I should give her credit for drinking that crap in the first place (God knows I don’t touch the stuff).
I don’t drink Old Style this time of year either. And, it goes without saying, it really needs to be drunk in the bleachers at Comiskey.
Doug says
Per Wikipedia:
Bourbon whiskey: