In my experience, media and government officials are reasonably comfortable with folks spinning for their cause — “advocacy” we call it in the legal business — but if they peg you as a liar, you’re probably sunk.
Jon Ketzenberger’s reporting on the Indiana Live Casino in Shelbyville seems to indicate the casino is doing the latter instead of the former. They claimed that Obama’s people told them to pull an ad campaign that used his “Change you can believe in” slogan and a likeness of Obama that was not authorized. This wasn’t true. They also claimed that Justin Timberlake would participate in the ribbon-cutting. He said he never made plans to attend.
Not exactly cultivating trust for the casino.
Lou says
‘Change you can believe in’ is a great example of a modern type slogan.It means if you don’t believe a certain way,you won’t recognize the change as good.
An 18 yr old computer expert can click up any truth system anyone wants him to .Truth has a fast, clean path to us all..
But Im happy to see liberal types make more use of slogans now.It evens the political competition.
varangianguard says
Perhaps. But, “spinning” often corkscrews around the truth while dancing a merry jig.
Lou says
Ive never looked at ‘spinning the truth’ as ‘lying’,but it does create a self-serving truth,and that could be termed by some ‘a false impression’.Spinning is a strategy to push buttons and sway minds.As pointed out in the casino account above, actual provable lying gets your spin thrown out.
example: today Fox news gave a report that catholics who voted 54% in favor of Obama are turning away from him because of Obama’s recent rulings on abortion and stem cells.I would venture a guess that the reason that the original 46% didn’t vote for Obama maybe had something to do with abortion and stem cells. But Obama’s recent rulings were fully expected..No catholic would have been surprised,if those were determining issues.
So maybe the Fox news report above was aimed at the Evangelical Protestants who voted maybe 90% against Obama on social and cultural issues…to give them encouragement.
Byron says
Then there’s Chris Dodd, who said earlier this week he didn’t know who was responsible for the provisions in the stimulus bill allowing AIG bonuses, then the next day said Treasury came and pushed him to make the change, that’s lying, not spinning.
Not exactly cultivating trust for the Obamatrons in Congress.
Chuckcentral says
Let’s see…Justin Timberlake- A list,100K appearance fee, traffic jam. I’ll give you that he has more talent than say…Paris Hilton or Brittney. But does anybody else pine for the days when supposed A list celebrities had actual A list talent?
Dave says
Byron – what does Chris Dodd’s lying have to do with Obama exactly?
Blaming Obama’s administration for crappy congressmen who should have had term limits placed on them 100 years ago is the same as “lying” or “spinning”. I’m pretty damn tired of the false implications that are flying around from BOTH sides.
Lets cut the B.S. or kick them out. Term limits! I’m tired of old white guys who can barely hold up their heads and think the “Enternets” are something you catch fish with.
fscott says
Please let me know why you bloggers let Bosma get away with turning this session in to a question on caps, when we all know we have another year to address them.
Also, you know he is just trying to divert us from the real issues jobs and the economy…he has lost all other issues…please realize focusing on the caps is like focusing on gay marriage “look over here, while everything happens to you over there”.
Please be more focused on real issues and less about rhetoric.
cosanostradamus says
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Prob’ly not a good idea to trust casino’s anyway.
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