With the House Democrats in their second week of self-imposed exile, Secretary of State Charlie White finds himself indicted on seven felony charges; the most serious of which is a Class C felony charge of fraud on a financial institution. The most embarrassing politically, for the man who is our Chief Election Officer, are the charges that he committed voter fraud. These charges were brewing before the election, and, yet, Indiana’s voters elected White by a comfortable margin. Would it be cynical for me to speculate that Indiana’s voters don’t know squat about many of the candidates for whom they vote?
Anyway, we’ve got some interesting times brewing here.
It might be cynical, but it is clearly true.
Don’t know, or maybe don’t care. When G. W. Bush was elected to a second term, I was convinced that they really, really don’t care.
A study of the media coverage would have to be done to have any idea what the voters knew and didn’t know in this case, but I’m not sure how that would transfer to other little-known cases. I think I did speculate that voters don’t find these offices important or interesting and therefore just vote for the party they usually do or if they split the ticket vote the one most common to them. However, in this case you have more than that circumstance to consider. Is it beyond the pale to wonder if race was a factor? Yes, Obama won Indiana, but people probably felt they had “enough” information in that contest.
To be fair, the dude who ran against Charlie was named Vop Osilli. Who is gonna vote for Vop?
I wonder if Charlie White is the perpetrator of dirty political maneuvering or is the victim of dirty political maneuvering.
What are the anti-democratic Democrats doing in Illinois?
Fundraising.
The more they appease their donors, the fuller their coffers. Fines are just a cost of doing business. Think of teachers unions as major stock-holder/investors in the Democratic Party. The corporation leaders want to appease their investors. Screw the rest of us.
Who is gonna vote for Vop?
I dunno, Buzz; I really thought the Reince Preibus endorsement was gonna put him over the top.
Okay, the Vop thing was a bit of a cheap shot. A good rejoinder is that a guy named Obama won the state a couple of years before.
But keep in mind that Obama had a get-out-the-vote machine the likes of which this state has never seen before.
I’m still working on this story, but my initial calculations show that Gary, which is one of the areas that Obama really surged, has as many as 20,000 “excess” voter registrations.
I think that that is some indication of what Acorn did. And because there are so many precincts in Gary that literally have 100% Democrat voting (not even one person made a mistake and voter R?!?), which itself is probably some indication of thievery, that was probably 20k votes to Obama’s bottom line, not to mention the legitimate 40k votes the D’s get out of there every election.
We assume ideologically that a 100% black voting area is corrupt with lots of stuffed ballot boxes. But a 100% white voting area is honestly counted and tabulated,and everyone understands the issues.
White folks just can’t be corrupt.It’s genetic. We don’t have to investigate because we already know.That’s ideology,and maybe it’s also race.
Recall also that GWB was about as popular as DST & class basketball in 2008 and the Republican ticket in 2008 was John McCain and Sarah Palin.
So in retrospect, not too surprising that the Democrats won Indiana in 2008. Won’t happen for another 20 years, but not surprising.
Wow, wasn’t expecting the race card to be thrown out on a post about Charlie White. However, considering Charlie’s last name, I guess it makes sense.
Lou, I don’t mean to speak for Buzz, but I believe the point is that there aren’t any other voting areas that vote 100% anything, regardless of race, and the huge voter turnout in Gary is quite amazing (btw, Gary is 84% black). I am sure Gary’s proximity to Chicago, which has possibly the nation’s richest history of voter fraud (and happens to also have more white voters than any other race) is coincidental.
If you know of evidence regarding such a voting anomaly in other areas of the state, please share. Thanks.
Gee, Buzz, I thought “the Reince Preibus endorsement ” was a pretty good rejoinder, but then I thought you were joking about the name, not suggesting that no one with one of those, y’know, funny Black names could possibly win an election in Indiana. Without massive voter fraud, of course.
Hey, if you do enough research somebody might explain to you that excess voter registrations, with or without the scare quotes, are not the same as excess votes; that poor people move a lot, and their secretaries are notorious for having funny names and being slow on updating paperwork, that Todd Rokita certified the 2008 election in which “more” people voted in Gary than live there–how high does this conspiracy go?–and that the only guy we really know committed voter fraud in the state is named Charlie White, and he’s from south of Lake County.
Lou, I don’t make that assumption. I just have not seen such a precinct. If you have one, let me know.
Dog, Hammond, East Chicago, Lake Station, and Gary are pretty similar. They all have transient populations. And, look at the numbers, they are all in a similar range, except Gary.
Then I go look at the 2010 vote totals, and I find no precincts where Republicans don’t get any votes in the three former, and dozens in the later.
It’s fishy.
I don’t know if you guys saw, but there’s a House Bill that says that Lake County can only have early voting at our government center in Crown Point, not at the courthouses in Hammond, EC, and Gary (as they had in ’08). Seems to me that the Republicans are already trying to neuter the Obama/ ACORN Indiana machine in ’12.
Dog, Hammond, East Chicago, Lake Station, and Gary are pretty similar. They all have transient populations. And, look at the numbers, they are all in a similar range, except Gary.
Then I go look at the 2010 vote totals, and I find no precincts where Republicans don’t get any votes in the three former, and dozens in the later.
I just randomly clicked on a Gary precinct, and this is what I got. Just an example of what the heck I’m talking about.
At the least, I would think that the two Republican poll workers would have voted for Coats!
It’s fishy.
I don’t know if you guys saw, but there’s a House Bill that says that Lake County can only have early voting at our government center in Crown Point, not at the courthouses in Hammond, EC, and Gary (as they had in ’08). Seems to me that the Republicans are already trying to neuter the Obama/ ACORN Indiana machine in ’12.
Just looking back on my work, there are 140 precincts in Gary, and 16 had no Republican votes in the 2010 election.
So you have more than 10% of the precincts in Gary with no Republican votes.
There are 561 precincts in Lake County, and not one has no Democrat votes. I would challenge folks like Lou to find any precinct in Indiana which does not have any Democrat votes. I don’t think that they exist.
“Just looking back on my work, there are 140 precincts in Gary, and 16 had no Republican votes in the 2010 election.”
How do you know? Where do you get precinct voting records?
Lou,
Ask any cop. There is far more crime in black neighborhoods than white. Spin it if you will, but there has not been a murder in Fishers for over 20 years.
One of the most accurate predictors of crime in a given neighborhood is its ethnic make-up. Ethnicity even trumps income levels as a predictor of crime.
http://spotcrime.com/in/indianapolis
If black neighborhoods are rife with vice and violence, what should we think there would be fewer instances of other types of crime, such as voter fraud?
ethnic crime comes to Fishers . . .
http://www.mydesert.com/article/BG/20110303/NEWS02/103030452/0/LOCAL1801/Officials-announce-drug-trafficking-arrests?odyssey=nav|head
The suspects charged with federal counts are: Ricardo Diaz, 32, Mexico; Irma Lorena Escalera-Avalos, 34, Mexico; Miguel Martinez, 20, Mexico; Leodegario Martinez-Rios, 38, Mexico; Daniel Sandoval, 41, Mexico; and Alondra Villa, 27, Indianapolis.
“Just looking back on my work, there are 140 precincts in Gary, and 16 had no Republican votes in the 2010 election.”
How did you determine that? Where you find voting records by precinct?!?
Sorry, I guess my random clicking leaves a little to be desired.
Try this.
77 votes, 71 straight ticket D’s. Frightening. Not one vote for Dan Coats.
Buzz, after you click on the link, it appears you have to go to precinct 139 (or 142, where the Libertarian candidate’s single vote put her in 2nd place over Coats.
Sorry, my links aren’t linking to the precincts that I’m intending them to link to.
Bart,
Are you seriously trying to say that African-Americans or Hispanics are more likely to commit violent crime due to genetic composition? If so, I have no problem calling you a racist of the most blatant kind. If not, my apologies.
Sorry, Doug, for the possible slander.
Bart, try looking at the same stats based on income level.
For example, compare whites making under $20k with blacks under $20k on crime level, then do the same for those over $60k. Show us that evidence. FYI, a map isn’t going to show you that.
Until you do that, I suggest posting your comments here: http://www.kkk.com/
On the economic level it’s with the poor economic whites that republicans have been very successful in exploiting race.These are the people who brought me up and the neighborhood I lived in til I went away to college.My father feared I’d come back different and I did.
There’s a unstated outrage that anybody white should ever need compete with anybody black for a job.The government helps only blacks,and that takes away from whites,etc. So government is anti-american to that extent.
Acorn may have registered many people other than blacks,but it’s widely perceived that only blacks were registered and Obama was behind it to steal the election,and he’ll try it again..There were hundreds of thousands of illegal votes due to Acorn. I have seen reports, true o not, that there has been no verified cases of fradulent voting based on who acorn registered. But people believe those who tell them what they already know to be true..The media lies except for Fox News. Liberal types like me,although we are still a family, are accused of ‘playing the race card’ or ‘race baiting’ if we point out the obvious as reported..They know its all about race too,but its not to be acknowledged except among like-thinkers .The goverment is pro-black,so its not our fault to call it like it is. As my brother -in law recently warned: ‘we got to get rid of Obama before it’s too late’..He,and others, never miss Hannity or Glenn Beck who know just which buttons to push on race and culture. .Beck is a scholar after all.
We all have to have guns because eventually we”ll need them. I truly believe that this anecdotal paragraph although specific to me, is very wide spread cultural thinking in many parts of the country.
Next time I go home to Urbana, as reported on front page of NYT,I’ll see if I can find the Indiana Democrat legislators eating at the Cracker Barrel or entering the Comfort Suites, known as Urbana Lincoln Lodge in my days there…Not sure if they are still there.
Illinois is becoming like historical France was in despotic Europe. It’s where the free thinkers find comfortable lodging and food while hiding from oppressive government to the east and north.
I believe that Huckabee is simply saying lately what he has to say in order to stay in good standing with Fox News and those who support Fox news.